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As a teenage male, I feel like I am obliged to share my views on this topic. Firstly, I am gay, so this type of content never interested me, nor was it recommended to me on social media, so I have no first hand experience of its effects. That said, I have friends and I have interacted with people at school with whom this has influenced.

I am 15, at at my age, 80% of boys are mature, normal people (at least where I come from). They have been exposed to this material but can see its absurdity. It is clear that the age cayegory to which this appeals is much younger, as young as 10-11 and up until 13. I think it is a matter of maturity, and to put it frankly, intelligence that determines whether this resonates with boys. It takes a certain lack of critical thinking and reason to agree with points espoused by the likes of Andrew Tate; a boy either must be 11 or he must be a stupid 16 year old.

Also, one notices the idiotic red pill theories always hides behind a layer of humour and sarcasm:you will never hear a boy say 'all women are bad', but you may hear a (very distasteful) joke to which that is the 'punchline'. More commonly though, they are snide remarks, usually said to generate laughs and not taken to be serious, but one wonders how long it takes before one starts to genuinely believe these points.

Although I havent watched it, from your synopsis, it seems like the main inaccuracy with 'Adolesence' is its seriousness. Most teenage boys (and girls) cannot take ANYTHING seriously (much to my dismay). Everything is a joke, everything is a meme, everything is to be ridiculed and sniggered at; that is, until it isnt.

I might add that there is a certain archetyoe of male that has always existed to whom the red pill will always appeal: the degenerate. These are the most stupid and obnoxious, the bullies, druggies, vapers, you get it. This archetype has always existed but it is finding an output for its desires in the red pill.

I would also like to address your point regarding how men are falling behind as they are now on equal status with women due to feminism (parphrasing here), which evokes their ire as they want the old status quo back. This evaluation seems a little bit unfair to me, it seems to imply men are inherently oppresive and plain bad by nature. There is 100% a societal issue in the west when it comes to young straight men, I see first hand that girls fare much better academically, and one cannot argue with the suicide and mental health statistics. This is symptomatic of a consumerist and service-dricen late state capitalist society that is completely alien to the intrinsic psychological needs of humans, but, as seen by the statistics, straight men in particular. Much of the 'us vs them' dynamic wity both men and women has its root cause in the society that facillitates the problems faced.

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Alicia's avatar

This is such an insightful, comprehensive post! I can see how much work you put into this! There's so much to think about here, especially how we need to really think more about how we're safeguarding and raising children. As you said, they're not safe just because they're home... And boys are more susceptible to different dangers as well.

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